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I'm Stephen Haines from artery supplies.I'm here today to talk about um Dacron.sorry fast flight strings versus bcy 8 1.2 5 and different arrows as far as how.to fix your recurve shooting as far as.speed and what to select a couple of.things came came in to this so I'm.actually shooting a febrile recurve at.the moment and when and wind said to me.that in Korea a lot of the shooters will.shoot fast light strings because they.find it a lot more forgiving but in.Europe a lot of shooters will shoot 8 1.2 5 which is a fastest string so my.question from that was how much faster.is 8 1 to 5 versus fast light and what's.the difference in my shooting now I've.been shooting indoor archery so it's 18.meters and I did swap to the fast light.string which I made up which is here and.I found the bow a lot lot quieter than.the 8 1 2 5 that at the last state.championships I came second I missed out.by a couple of points on the first spot.and the next round I'm going to be.moving to target archery which is 90.meters at 90 meters there's obviously.going to be a lot of difference between.the speed of the bow and I'm currently.shooting 38 pounds the top men in the.world are shooting around 48 pounds so.there's a 10 pound extra speed and.energy difference now I can't draw 48.pounds of control 46 pounds so part of.it what I'm looking for is I'm looking.for what gear can I get to assist me at.the longer distances not so much the.shorter distances but of the longer.distances so we're going to compare.mckinney shafts to the normal 8tracks.carbon shafts and also the 8 1 2 5.string to fast light string I've got.quite a graph here are we going to put.them through the chronograph and compare.them so my first test is going to be a.fast white string with g8 racks a track.shafts now these are these are made by.winning we're knife families really.strong durable there are tornado 700th.spine I'm shooting in 38 pound weights.limb so it's top of the line win and win.limbs 28 and a half inch drawling and.let's see what sort of speed we go.that was a hundred and eighty three feet.per second I'll shoot another one so.part of this you're not trying to buy.points because points come down to.practice training and all the rest of it.fitness.and I said 263 which clearly is not so.again should know on a lot of arches I.speak to they get unhappy with the way.they shoot now what you're going to.compare as Olympians are going to be.shooting 3 to 500 hours a day every day.they run marathons.the average recreational shoot is going.to be only shooting 90 hours a week you.know the scores are going to be.dramatically different just because of.the fitness side.193 feet per second.oh number one.2:36 now you get the odd error in the.chronograph because of the way the arrow.is coming in and white conditions.183 186 another one.there's 258.183 so I'm pretty comfortable with 183.about tornadoes 700 grains.sorry 700 spine arrows with fast flight.stream now what I'm going to do is I'm.going to compare the McKinney's now.there are 700 spine arrow as well I'm.just going to grab those are now.McKinney arrows made by first name Rick.McKinney who's I'm going to say probably.the world's best archer made by carbon.tech which is owned by Rick Rick.McKinney he shot many World Records many.gold medals many Olympic medals some had.a most successful Archer still shoots.today he's a bit older now that still.his scores are good so these are the.keys now the keys are the lightest.carbon are made so over distance you.should pick up your scores with these.arrows.190 feet per second so when I've got.kids I've got a junior in this state.she's shooting McKinney arrows because.they'll light bath and she shot every.state record except for two she's been.shooting six months.199.188 one thing I noticed with the.chronograph if you shoot a high and low.you actually get different speed rate.rating but one speed.188 so with McKinney shaft over the.8tracks I'm picking up about 7 7 feet 7.6 feet per second now we're going to try.the bcy string with both arrows and see.the difference that is 7 feet per second.significant temp not even 10% 5%.increase in speed now it's not going to.be much at short distance but the.question is going to be at 90 meters.which is my question about shooting so.for the average Archer the difference.between a McKinney shaft and normal.tornado shaft tornadoes are obviously a.lot lot cheaper there are about half the.price you're probably not going to.notice any difference at all.but at the longer distances that's the.question if you're seen white poundage.bows and you've got to shoot those.longer distances we both are struggling.it's going to give you that extra 5%.which may be what you need so all you'll.swap the strings now and see what.difference out that plays ok I've just.fitted the bcy string to the bow this is.a winter wind bcy string now on strings.I have my biggest question is what's my.brace ID on my bow now basically I have.no idea.I don't really care um and when I say.that.these are factory made strings this is a.68 inch bow so this string should be.around 64 inches long I had a guy on.phone on Friday going the string should.be 64 and a half to get my brace height.right now if you extend your brace I it.basically what I'm looking for is my.spring angle to be something like that.on my limb if I make the string really.really sure what I do is I increase this.brace ight here I increase the package.my bow but I lose the power stroke of.the shot so by making this distance to.here bigger I lose speed of the bow even.though I'm increasing the poundage likes.likewise if I shorten this this sorry if.I lengthen the string the bracelet will.reduce which will increase my power.stroke so reducing the brace I will.increase my power stroke but it will.drop the poundage so basically overall.it doesn't make a lot of difference.so I've experimented with this before.with kids bows to try and make them.shoot faster and slower and basically I.didn't have much success so basically I.always just leave my string at the.factory setting to short or wack your.arm so bracelets too short or wack your.arm too long you're going to lose speed.out of the boat but basically I don't.bother about it I just shoot my arrows.the more you shoot the better you.technique the better you'll shoot I find.lots of people like win and win don't.even publish I'm pretty sure they don't.publish the size of their bracelet and.most companies don't I know who do they.give you a range where it should be in.between but generally if you buy a.string a factory string they're going to.be fine and like I said this customer.broader string has had one with 64.inches long it should be 64 and a half.if you want to buy a custom string and.we make custom strings and we can make.them 64 and a half you're just going to.pay twice as much so we sell a fast.flight stream from from wind and wind.for around eighteen sixteen dollars for.us to make one we sell it for probably.around $40 just because of the time.involved so but I don't tend to worry.about brace I I wouldn't have a clue.what my brace IDs on this bow like I.said I came second in the state 14th or.13th in Australia.but once again I don't even expect to do.well unless I put the time and effort in.unless I train unless I get fitter I've.been shooting the recurve now for a.couple of months I'm doing about thirty.to sixty hours a day not enough and I've.got to build it up it's just I'm having.lots of pains in my muscles so this is.the bcy string its factory string from.winner win which is fine we're going to.start with the 8tracks.the tornado arrows now with the fast.flight string these shot about 183 feet.per second now you will should hear the.extra sound in the bow because with the.bcy eight one two five there's no.stretch fast flights got stretch so when.you put on the bowl actually stretch.which is once again you know string.lengths five flight will stretch when.you put on the bow so a sixty-four inch.string when you put on the bow will.stretch a little bit.so this bow when you put on the bow will.not stretch.182.192.184 now the arrows are all touching one.other and set on the target so I'm.getting about the same speed out that.bcy is Firefly now our number of strands.did more strands you got on the string.generally the slower will because.there's more mass but or less it'll.stretch.I guess I'm running out in strand the.most important thing I look at is the.center serving so how tight the nock is.on the string.these are mckinney pin knox and that's.about i'm pretty comfortable with the.way that feels so when I made my own.string I made the number of strands and.I fitted the center serving I basically.get to the nock to make sure the nock.I'm shooting a large groove most.ricochets will shoot small groove.basically to make sure that was the.right clicking arm tight enough on the.string we can Center serving that come.in all different thicknesses from point.zero zero seven right up to point zero.zero three point three so you can change.the thickness of that string.dramatically so like I said I'm shooting.around eighteen screen with the fast way.that was 192 but and you say that one's.wrong.184 so we're pretty comfortable in the.183 184 so I'm getting about the same.speed with the eight one two five as.fast light so I did notice the.difference on the when I was making the.string how much it stretches on the.stretching machine under poundage so I.actually have to reduce the amount of.pressure on the string machine because.it tensions the string because fire.flight does stretch but this is only.this bow is only 38 pounds my string.tensioner when I make strings is set I.think about 350 pounds so which I reduce.one of making recurve strings so now.we're going to shoot keaney's so it's.fast fight these got around the 190.that's 190 so basically the bcy string.and my fast light string one I made is.basically the same speed the bow so.doesn't sound that noisy with the string.I thought it did before.187.189.so overall the McKinney chefs we're.picking up around seven feet per second.on over the tornado win a win arrows now.on that theory is a heavier arrows more.stable in the wind and with a heavier.point it's more stable but obviously on.distance you shooting longer distances.you need the speed to be able to make.that distance so it's a bit of trial and.error but basically overall you know a.lot of difference between the fast.flight and the eight one to five in.speed which is probably why the world is.not that mixed as you know that if there.was a certainty on string material.everyone would be shooting it but if.there's not it means there's probably.not much difference and that's what we.found today there's not a lot of.difference between the eight one two.five and the first flight string I made.up shot the same sort of speed but.McKean fast.makini shaft is five feet sorry seven.feet per second faster so but you're.going to pay the extra dollars for that.shaft there are about 300 Australian.dollars a dozen the tornado is around.150 a dozen that point both point zero.zero one in straightness so it's just.that basically the mass weight is.different so I'm Stephen Han from artery.supplies I hope that helped you with.string material and speeds with the.recurve archery thank you bye.

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