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the broadcast is now starting all.attendees are in listen-only mode good.afternoon welcome to this Ofsted webinar.we're going to discuss today the use of.unregistered and unregulated children's.social care services we're joined by.colleagues from local authorities and.service provider organizations and I'd.like to start by some introductions I'm.John Mitchell I'm assistant Regional.Director frost Ayres and I'd like.colleagues in the room to introduce.themselves so I'm Paul Brooker Regional.Director Mark Jackson social care.compliance inspector Kristen jad social.care regulatory inspection manager Nigel.price one of her Majesty's inspectors.social care thanks colleagues so this.webinar is about placements for children.we're going to talk about both.registered and unregistered services.regulated and unregulated services now.this is an issue that has the potential.to generate a lot of confusion and some.anxiety and essentially this webinar is.about getting it right for children.young people we want to provide clarity.and I think we can provide reassurance.for you as commissioners and providers.of services but to do so we will invite.you to ask questions we want this to be.an interactive session and we're going.to follow up the webinar with an email.with some frequently asked questions and.further information so John and if we.could just explain the the participants.can ask questions by going to the right.hand side of the screen then typing the.questions electron will try and.incorporate some of those as we go along.and on on what comes in and if anything.if we can't answer anything or we don't.get to things then that will be included.at the end in a frequently asked.questions document which we will then.circulate to everybody who's.participating when you leave the webinar.than just spent five or ten minutes at.the end of people want to add further.questions and we'll get back.- yawn that okay thank you Paul so to.start us off we're going to bring up the.first slide and ready to set the scene.really I want us to talk about the the.purpose of today's webinar in a bit more.detail now we recognize that finding.appropriate care in a registered setting.can be difficult in some children's.cases and indeed some older children.won't want to be looked after in a.foster placement or a children's home.some types of settings such as.semi-independent supportive living.services for care leavers are.unregulated and the legislation does not.provide for those services to register.with Ofsted but what we're seeing really.as an increase in Arrangements being.made to provide care and accommodation.for children that does meet the criteria.for registration as a children's home.without that registration being in place.despite it being a legal requirement now.this this might put providers at risk of.prosecution but essentially it may also.deny vulnerable children the additional.safeguards that they have by virtue of.the registration and inspection regime I.think we should say in passing here but.we recognize that the relevant.legislation and for us that's the care.Standards Act is now nearly what 20.years old and there is a debate to be.had with government about whether.changes might be needed in order to keep.pace with changing needs but that debate.is for another day.for now we all have to work within the.legislation as it currently stands.so while evident our webinar aims to.clarify for you as commissioners and.service providers what services must be.registered and what is needed to to.achieve that will explain Ofsted's.policy position and the approach that we.take to situations where effectively.residential care arrangements are being.made or considered for children but the.registration that's required is not yet.in place we will also want to touch.the implications of this for our.inspections of local authority.Children's Services can I can I just add.a charge I mean I knew that for us it's.not just about compliance is it is about.quality and I think the point we made.earlier it's about children children.vulnerable children are having a right.to a certain quality in standard of care.that the people solutely reiner yeah.yeah yeah so I think I think picking up.that point you know I would say that our.starting point as a regulator is that we.want those who should register to do so.and provided they meet the requirements.of registration we will expedite.applications as quickly as possible now.it it would be wrong to gloss over the.fact that as a regulator we do have the.power to prosecute if necessary and I.think in extremis where children are at.risk and perhaps a provider is.repeatedly flouting the regulations that.might be a tool that we would turn to.but in in practice we wouldn't.anticipate the need to prosecute.frequently but Kristen perhaps you could.come in here I'm keen that we should.talk about the circumstances where we.might those unusual circumstances where.we might consider prosecution each case.we take on a case-by-case basis and it.depend what our investigation into those.possible instance brought up really so.we would do some sort of investigation.and then make a decision again if we had.a provider as you say that repeatedly.knowingly was operating as a home that.wasn't registered we would have to take.serious action and Kristen I think you.said earlier the prosecution is rarely.ever our first response no I mean.certainly today in this region what.we're finding is actually providers are.working with us to actually register so.obviously if that's the case then we.haven't got any concerns but certainly.today we haven't taken anyone to.prosecute.but that doesn't mean that we wouldn't.right okay okay.Thank You Kristen because you could come.on to our next slide and again setting.the scene really we want to begin to.define the terms that we're using in.talking about unregulated and.unregistered provision for children.there's been much said in the Social.Work press recently about children.living in unregulated and unregistered.services we want to clarify what we mean.when we talk about things being.regulated or unregistered as it's very.easy to confuse these terms so we deal.with the first term first being.unregulated is allowed in law as I've.said and services which are providing.accommodation and support to young.people who need some help to live.independently but don't require.full-time care those services do not.require we we do not require those.services to be registered there's no.provision in the law for us to do that.now some have calls for Ofsted to become.the regulator for this type of supported.living service ultimately it's a matter.for government I do think I'm just.chipping in I mean I do think one of the.problems is because you know come to the.actually letters well this some Chadron.they unregulated unregistered and I I.know you know I've heard people using.them interchangeably they're not I mean.the fact is that unregulated is actually.is non-regulated there's no requirement.to exactly separate yes yes exactly they.fall outside of our own net as the the.regulator exactly there's no.registration for those services so.perhaps moving on to the next slide and.if we put aside those unregulated.placements let's focus on those services.that do have to be registered now we.mustn't forget here that local authority.colleagues you as the corporate parents.for your children in care.must make good decisions for them and.take the steps that you need to to.ensure their living in places that are.suitable and save and this includes.being able to make arrangements.involving unregulated services where.those are the right things that children.need.however the flexibility that you have as.local authorities as corporate parents.those flexibilities do not prevent the.need for providers to be registered.where that's requires so broadly if.children receive full-time care and.accommodation this is likely to receive.registry require registration as a.children's home running an unregistered.children's home would be an offence and.I think it it's right isn't it if we if.we consider that children with greater.needs who require full-time care a.living in services it's right that they.should be living in services which are.subject to inspection regulation so.those additional safeguards are in place.for them and Ofsted we can help to.ensure that the people looking after.them are suitable and children have the.type of care they that they need I I.used to have a colleague who referred to.commissioning this big shopping late and.it she reckoned the Commissioner was a.sort of personal shopping assistant but.the bottom line is if you're buying care.on behalf of a child you have a duty and.responsibility to make sure it's of a.right standard of some that it is.recommended yeah yeah moving on now to.the next slide and I'd like to bring.mark Jackson into the discussion mark hi.there and so what is the key issue and.we believe that over the years there's.been a misunderstanding as developed and.any type of accommodation for a young.person aged 60 and over does not require.registration with Ofsted this isn't.entirely true although some young people.aged 16 or over live in.type of accommodation often called.supported living where the prepare the.care provided is very limited or.restricted for example to a member of.staff calling in and to see them or.known as floating support some young.people require constant care due to.their individual needs their disability.and the risk they pose may be to.themselves and the community in these.situations the care provided is often.through high staffing levels 24-hour.care and the young people rely on those.stuff to meet most if not all of their.needs in these circumstances the homes.may fall within the definition of a.children's home so an establishment for.children age 16 or over and is is not a.children's home if the purpose is to.enable for the young person to Windigo.an apprenticeship training holiday.cultural education recreation or.sporting activity just might just I.always think every webinar needs an.idiot and I think I'm probably the least.knowledgeable of the people here but.just just can I make sure I've got this.right so what we're saying is.unregulated provision isn't an issue so.this is completely separate care and.accommodation as distinct from supported.accommodation has to be registered and I.think what you're saying is children in.care who are under 16 they can't be in.unregulated placements and of they have.to be mr. placements yeah absolutely so.yeah children as for instance age 15.would require care and accommodation and.also in certain circumstances children.16 and 17 may also require the same.level of care and support and despite.the fact they may be placed in supported.living could be deemed to be a.children's home by virtue of the level.of care that is required to be delivered.is that I mean these people some people.would argue that there's a fine dividing.line between high level of floating or.others.and care I mean that is there I mean you.know but do we have a clear definition.of I mean I there isn't sorry there is.that clear definition but there is.guidance available we have an annex in.our guidance to registration which goes.through some of the indicators that we.would look at when deciding whether it.meets the criteria for registration or.not yeah I mean and I think in practice.we probably know what it looks like.wouldn't you know I mean support is by.definition as I like to touch don't care.which is kind of clearly more intensive.you know full-stop yeah and I think I.think that we'll take the opportunity.through the webinar to pick up a few.practical examples I think to illustrate.that that point differentiating care.from from support so if move on sorry.yeah if we move on to some common myths.and I think this is one that we've found.quite a lot over the time we've been.dealing with their unregistered services.and certainly what seems to be out there.amongst providers and some local.authorities that there's been a myth.developed over a number of years that's.where a providers providing care and.accommodation for any child for fewer.than 28 days then they do not need to.register and as the Children's Zone this.isn't true when we find an establishment.where different organizations claim to.be responsible for different aspects of.the establishment for example where a.local authority provides a property for.a private companies or in a service in.the first instance we need to decide if.it is an establishment providing care.and accommodation wholly or mainly for.children what we've established this we.must determine who the provider is so we.can take steps to ensure they consider.registering with Ofsted all ceased to.provide that service we do not accept.that an establishment does not need to.register just because different.organizations are involved well.that they do not rent or own the.premises where the care is being.provided it's on a case-by-case basis.and we need to identify who the provider.is much will depend on the nature of.each arrangement and we can only deal.with these and are on a case-by-case.basis and we may also need to seek legal.advice in certain circumstances but in.general the organization providing the.care will most likely be the provider.who would need to register with offset.even if they do not own or rents the.property they must have some arrangement.in place to allow them to use the.premises that the care is being provided.from however there may be some.circumstances where a local authority.may provide the accommodation and.directly pay another organization to run.it eg and staffing through a care agency.in this circumstance it would be the.local authority who would be the.provider especially if the services only.is for their children if they're in.their own local authority just so you.know mark we have you know one of the.participants in a webinar just talked.about their local authority where.they're being discussions with the.police about unregulated placements and.I'm very keen to you know to have those.properties kind of licensed and ongoing.discussions with an MP about licensing.and regulation and so on and so clearly.that kind of reflects there's a I think.what John was saying earlier about the.kind of legislative changes where we're.at the question I just wanted to act.though was you know given that based on.your experience and you talked about you.know children in in placements that are.unregistered it's not usually a product.of confusion and innocent mistakes or is.it or is it more commonly deliberate.attempts to get round or circumvent the.legislation either on the part of local.authority or the provider I think in.truth natural it's a bit of both I think.we've experienced there.both confusion and there has been clear.you know clearly has been confusion and.hence why and Ofsted is decided to send.out various advice to local authorities.over the time but I think there has been.for those that some local authorities.that have the knowledge have tried to be.creative in what they think can.circumvent the regulations so in answer.to that I think there has been a lot of.confusion but I think some some.game-playing has also gone on and you.know we sort of we understand why that.may happen but that isn't to condone of.course mark we have a good question.coming in from joy joy Piper and joy I'm.going to paraphrase you're quite long.question which is really asking about.accommodation services so the the.scenario here is somebody has purchased.a home with three bedrooms and setting.up an accommodation service for young.people over 16 how is it that they do.not need to have a license or be.regulated so that's that's right isn't.it it's those sorts of services don't.don't fall into the mix yeah basically.16 plus supportive living where there's.a low level of input from staff and.largely the young people are looking.after themselves with some support.they're exempt from registration at this.moment in time okay joy I hope we've all.answered your question but do you have.another go if I've misunderstood what.the yeah it might even be a rhetorical.question can you read it as how can we.well the answer is because there is not.the regulation statute regulation in.place for us to do it so austere it has.no powers to intervene in order to.register and regulate a service that.falls outside of the definition of the.children's home and I think you alluded.to before about you know the legislation.regulations and you know may be somewhat.out of date in many cases and certainly.the you know we could do with looking.its reviewing that when you know.Parliament's and.allows rally and we're aware there's a.lot of discussion in the sector about.these so-called 16-plus services and the.quality is not always there and you know.we recognize there is a debate going on.within the profession that does need to.be a discussion with government about.this but we are working within the.current legislation and regulatory.framework I think if we've probably.covered that I'd like to pass over to.Kristen for the next slide thank you.Mark.over the next two slides I'm just going.to clarify services that will always.require registration and those settings.that fall outside registration so.settings that will always require.registration basically are any property.or purpose-built facility providing care.and accommodation wholly or mainly for.children whether that be operating or.planning to operate as a children's home.children's homes which also provides.short breaks for disabled children and.in addition a permanently moored boat.sighted Caravan or a lodge where.placements are going to be made.throughout the year with no specific.limited on duration this crew and its.crucially that's not a holiday will also.require registration we also have.bespoke placements these can be.specifically sourced it might be a flat.or specially modified house and the care.plan for the child indicates that this.is a permanent placement providing care.and accommodation normally these.designed to meet single children.specific needs do require registration.so moving on to settings that fall.outside registration obviously we've.already mentioned those settings that.are classed as unregulated so the 16.plus placements don't need to register.in addition to that a service where the.accommodation is not permanent so maybe.consistently moving such as an unload.boat a barge or a caravan this is.unlikely to meet the definition of a.children's home under the.Standards Act there are some other.arrangements that don't require.registration such as we might have.prepared children's home that operates.an outreach service now these might be.these are solely for the children living.in those children's homes the premises.for the outreach services don't require.separate registration and the reason for.this is because the child has a.permanent bed in the children's home.they use the I treat premises for a.fixed amount of time normally this is.for a focus piece of work for example.transitioning into independence or.working on specific issues so the child.might be going through a difficult time.and they need someone to one space to.work through their issues they then.return to the children's home staff and.children from a children's home that go.away and holiday that premises also.doesn't need registration however it is.on the premise that it's for a holiday.and does not exceed 27 days a provider.may also own a number of establishments.all of which apart from one is.registered as a children's home and that.establishment is solely used as a.holiday accommodation but again it used.to be needs to be used for less than the.28 days otherwise eclipta classed as a.holiday in addition to this local.authorities may provide accommodation.for refugees asylum seekers and this is.an ordeal to undertake age assessments.now although who care and accommodation.will probably be provided because the.primary purpose is to undertake an age.assessment to ensure that person is the.age they think they are and not an adult.and so not placed with children this.establishment also does not require.registration just if I made I saw I was.picking up on a call from henrietta.Barkham who contacted us to say it goes.back to this issue of when is supported.accommodation not when is it legislated.care and when isn't it so the question.was if a semi-independent accommodation.provider that provides support for.sixteen to seventeen year olds and that.support is 24th.should this provider be registered well.I think when you've got care being.provided 24/7 it depends what they're.calling that nessam supported living.units for example may have a member of.staff who sleeps in overnight.now that might just be classed as.support as opposed to care I think.probably a bit of clarity is the sort of.things that we look for if we went out.on a visit to decide if care was being.provided would be things like our.children maintaining their own finances.are they administrating their own.medication are they cooking for.themselves are they making themselves.their own appointments for medical.appointments that sort of thing but what.we have found on some of the visits that.we've done is that actually children are.are I've got to got very detailed care.plans for 24/7 care on some occasions to.staff to one child now clearly that's.not just supported living that is then.clearly stepping over the boundaries.into providing care understand we've got.a another very good question from Selena.local authority colleague who writes.saying that we're aware of the.requirements we are currently in an.impossible position in that we cannot.find despite extensive national search.find residential care for children with.more complex needs and this is a real.challenge for local authorities we.recognise that I think the answer though.is where they're making these.arrangements they need to consider.registration if they're dividing they do.and what we're finding is where where.information is coming to us to say the.service is running unregistered on some.occasions when we've done the visits the.care has actually been of a very good.standard so they're the ones that we.would work with those providers to say.we need those bespoke placements for.those single placements for those most.challenging children and will support.providers to register yes so we're not.about preventing good care for children.and there are gaps in the market indeed.but we want to work with providers to.get them registered where there are good.services providing good care for.children absolutely a stupid question.what is then stopping people registering.well that's that's a really good.question I'm not sure you know there is.a process to go through and we work.we're going to touch on Chris I think.you're going to talk talking to us about.the process for registration it is.relatively straightforward I think.sometimes what I've seen happening I.don't know is where the I have seen.teachers where somebody's in the process.of it partway through a registration.process and have then responded to her a.question local authority to take a child.before the registration is complete so.on the face of it in the first part of.it they're doing the right things but.then in terms of taking a placement when.they're not registered it's problematic.isn't it absolutely and you know we have.come across that and it it is really.difficult I think some providers say to.us they get a lot of pressure from local.authorities to take placements as we.find cases like that.obviously we have a duty to investigate.all cases and then determine what.actions will take following our.investigation okay we've got it we've.got one or two other questions coming in.too well we're sort of digesting those.should we move on to mark at least for.the next slide and we'll then we'll deal.with questions as they come in and we.mark okay I think this you know he's.probably blinked who were some the.questions we're getting about.recognizing the difficulties that local.authorities face when needing to place.children in an emergency in unregistered.provisions and we need to give some.assurance that the Ofsted will exercise.some discretion in deciding what action.we should take and in deciding how to.act or action we should take we as.Christians already mentioned we.undertake a thorough investigation of.each individual case and then we decide.we look at the permanency and the.purpose of the provision of care and.accommodation and following this.investigation we will consider whether.or not to pursue any formal regulatory.action I think it's fair to say that our.primary aim is to ensure.everyone that should register this we've.heard this before and this includes.working with the provider of the service.and with the local authority that has.made the placement it is important that.the place near Authority understand.understands that they are using a.service that we believe requires.registration with us and everybody.should be making every effort to.register if that is appropriate and.there may be instances where placements.are made usually in an emergency where.it has been difficult or even impossible.for the local authority to find a.register setting which would accept the.child over any time and the permanency.and purpose of the arrangement changes.ie is not an emergency.so the immediacy of it has changed we.should review our position and if the.placement and the emergency placements.become subjects who drift and delay and.the child is staying in these fixed.premises in this and it has the.hallmarks of permanency so there are no.arrangements in place for moving gone.and how would you as an inspector then.judge whether it's permanent how do you.how do you judge this permanence well we.we look at what's in place for that.child in terms of permanency so are they.for instance registered at a school and.can the local authority provide any.details as to what their medium-term and.future plans are for this child and also.and we we look to see whether there are.any firm dates for the child being able.to move on to a registered placement and.another indicator would be that these.details of this placement are in the.care plan and a reviewed at a statutory.review so that would indicate that there.may be some permanency in this.arrangement and obviously that's what we.would need to be looking at and is that.a judgement call because we've got a.question through from Richard which.actually says what is the definition of.true.is this actually set out in guidance.somewhere for us or is this a judgment.call on the kind of it is a judgment it.is a judgment call indeed yeah I mean it.won't be the dictionary definition that.we would apply is it as much about the.intent as well or the stated intent and.the plans in place absolutely it would.be tuned ateliers closely with the local.authority and establish exactly what.steps they're taking to find a suitable.placement and what plans are in place so.we would take all that into.consideration when deciding what action.we need to take but there are a couple.of questions really good questions.coming in from the rich and Rachel I.think which which set out some of the.challenges that local authorities have.in making arrangements quickly for very.vulnerable children and having to turn.to providers who are offering very short.term placements for children I think we.need to recognize that registration.takes time don't we so we have to we.have to be pragmatic in our approach I.think that's correct and certainly.that's what I was trying to convey that.we do exercise some discretion in this.but we're obviously and you know.constrained by the logistic and we can't.allow and the these arrangements to.continue for any great time because they.are unregistered and essentially illegal.and and and Lynne raises an important.point and talking about how this is.really come to the fore in recent times.specifically in the last 12 months.and she points out John that on every.it's on every occasion it's an emergency.we're either off stit have found a.provider inadequate or the provider.themselves serves an immediate notice.and so it's very much hand to mouth and.the implication there clearly is that.we created the problem Austin yeah on.the scale and ask you for a response on.that yes I mean it's it's it's a very.difficult balance here to be found.really so I'd say well I think for us.and the local foster Ofsted we do have.to intervene occasionally as an.inspector it as a regulator it's right.that inspectors point out call out poor.practice for children so where services.are unsafe providing poor quality care.it's right that we should that should be.reflected in inspection judgments and.local authorities obviously want to.provide good care for children that's.what we're all about and I can see there.are some situations where we're having.to intervene in response to very poor.care as a regulator using our powers to.limit what providers can do occasionally.to suspend or in the ansel registration.now that puts local authorities in.addition but they're having to make.arrangements with children that are.otherwise under hand so we recognize.that this is a difficult area but really.what we're all about is trying to ensure.that there is good good quality care for.children to bring those services into.registration that do require.registration and and inspectors in the.previous existence I mean they're.obviously parallels with their adult.community care rather with the closure.of an OPP form and people having to be.moved at short notice I mean highly.traumatic yeah residues in the staff and.but I don't think anybody you know.wooden or anybody else would suggest.that therefore you can lose with.inadequate care yeah and in my.experience I don't see my social care.regulatory inspectors lightly calling.something in that equipment I mean the.point is it's about working together as.known yeah I think can I can I just come.in there as well I think it's also we.found that some providers see that.there's a niche in the market and.you know and looking to register too and.address some of these deficiencies in in.in bespoke placements that are you know.clearly not available so there are.providers that are working with us that.are looking to fill the void shall we.say yet in the market yeah should move.on then to just run through what's.required to register a service as the.children's home where they where it.meets the criteria for registration yep.I'll give you a brief summary I mean.there are basically three stages to.registering just to make it clear I.think the most important stage is the.actual initial application and one of.our biggest delays is applications are.submitted when actually the application.isn't ready they you do have to sort of.commit to say that the premises is ready.as well and I think a lot of people.don't realize that when they're.submitting so when you submit the.application with the managers.application and the responsibility.individuals application along with the.fee once it's deemed complete it will.move to stage two and once it stage two.unfortunately this is where a lot of our.applications tend to stall a little bit.because it is subject to relevant checks.such as references and local authority.checks unfortunately one of the things.that does causes a lot of delays is.actually waiting on local authorities to.return those checks in a timely manner.and we can't move registration on to.stage three until all of those checks.are complete once the registration goes.to stage three we pretty much get out.and do the visit and the interviews in a.timely manner and we actually have up to.40 working days to sign off the.registration but nine times out of ten.we're pretty much out within a couple of.weeks and and we pretty much sign them.off if everything's okay within a timely.manner.but as I say I think just to reiterate.and submitting the initial application.the crucial things are a making sure.that the premises absolutely ready and.meet Stan.and that the individuals are being put.forward also meet our requirements.because they're the sort of things that.we might consider refusing registration.on okay so now just going to pass over.to Nigel okay I mean the slide was.entitled challenges for Ofsted but.actually I think we could call that.challenges for the sector it was a note.from Richard about legislation I mean I.think that's right we know the.legislation is kind of out of step that.it's kind of moved on and we also know.you know the DfE are acutely aware of.this you know and but having said that.you know it's the only time I'm going to.mention grexit in the seminar clearly.there's not much space or other.legislative changes at the moment or.appetite floor and so those contribute.to that we absolutely recognize in.position and authority under and in some.ways they're not new I mean I've been.qualified 40 years I remember those.situations on a Friday night or with you.to see like any where you've got a child.with high level and leave you haven't.got a placement but they clearly have.become more acute.I mean Lynn was alluding to that I think.Richards made the same kind of point and.you know yes I mean it and sympathetic.doesn't just mean oh poor you but we'll.still kind of beat lower the head with.the kind of legislative framework.actually it is actually genuinely trying.to work with you on that so and and so.while most people out there do have.children's the best intentions there are.also some people who will attempt to.pull them all over off stage at eyes by.saying oh we registers I lose their law.and they drag their heels and and six.months becomes nine months before 12 so.it's it's you know there are all sorts.of challenges but going on to if I may.just to try I mean I suppose to partly.summarize what we've been saying or.capture um I mean I don't think anybody.would dispute it is the child's health.well-being safety there's power that's.why we're in the business that's what.what gets us up in the morning.that's what we care about and we also.know it as a responsible inspector that.we have to be sensible pragmatic we do.know and we hear firsthand you know the.kind of pressures and local authorities.under where supply and demand there's a.kind of a big gap there and it's not.just a local issue this kind of national.issues associated with that nobody asked.earlier about quality assurance and.whether we would advocate quality.assurance.I guess what one of the things that we.would say is these situations will occur.I doubt whether there are very many.authorities in the country who have not.one or another and they got with a child.in air in an unregistered placement.arose the issue union issue is what are.you going to do about it it is one thing.finding a placement the immediate.solution but in terms of you owe it to.the child I'm teaching it to suck eggs.here but you owe it to the child to make.sure the appropriate safeguards in place.and there are checks and balances that.they're not just you know placed and.forgotten yeah and at the end of the day.you know the legislation is there for a.purpose yeah we do need to to respect it.and comply with it yeah just just coming.back to the question of regimen you know.we what we want to do is get good.services registers a question from.Martin really which is and and touches.on some of the other the questions put.forward if local authorities having to.make arrangements in a crisis for.children Kristin you've talked about the.process of registration how long will.that take.and our little thought is able to.understand at what stage and application.has got to if they're working with their.providers okay well the application is.the application of the provider so.essentially the provider can contact us.and they make obviously have detailed.information of where their application.is and they can obviously inform the.local authority I think we have had some.cases where the provider is actually.known where their application is at.they haven't actually disclosed where.they act with the local authority.because we may be waiting for.information from the provider and we.can't take an application forward so we.have everything and that's complete so I.mean essentially the rough guidance for.registration is about 16 weeks but that.is really dependent on a full complete.application in the first place with no.delays in checks being undertaken so.essentially that the main guidance for.registration is once the application is.complete all checks complete within 40.working days and I would say nine times.out of ten zooming no problems it's.actually done earlier than that but.generally we allowed we say allow 16.weeks but I think just to clarify is I.think there's a real difference between.a placement being made on a Friday.afternoon and then being moved on.following Tuesday morning to a placement.being made and then the local authority.can't demonstrate that they've done.anything to look at what they can do for.that child and you know that we have had.a lot of instances where children are in.placements for six months plus so you.know and I think the the local authority.needs to be satisfied that provider is.actually doing that up most to submit a.complete application that he's going to.enable them to be registered mothers I'm.sorry one of the things Martinus was is.it possible for a local authority to.know exactly where the providers.indication is as it is they were.transparency well I mean the information.is that is the provider whoever's up in.testing application it's their.application now as we could take some.advice on policy whether you know if an.applicant is going to allow us to give.information to a local authority then we.can but essentially it's their.application.so was the deep thinking probably what.Marta with you don't necessarily need to.know the detail of it but how they you.know has it been submitted has the.benefits an interview etc not the.results of them yeah the stages in the.process.yeah well otherwise providers can pull.them all over the local orthotic.and we do we do indicate to local.authorities where if we've got an.application that we can do but if we've.got problems or waiting information on.the application we've got a bear in mind.but certainly a registered manager it.could be personal information that we're.waiting for regarding health if we sent.health too you know for further advice I.don't think it would be appropriate to.us to be sharing that in the local.authority but that would be for the.applicant to share it not for us.I suppose that's something the local.authorities as commissioners could build.into their contract with local.authorities the provider will share that.information with them in terms of.timescales and deadlines something to.think about.yeah but a related question really a.good question from from Richard which is.really I guess you're going to come on.and talk about this Nigel which is what.are the implications for local.authorities if they're using placements.which at the point of using them are.unregistered even if there's a.discussion about achieving registration.what are the implications for the local.authorities own inspection how would we.approach this question well okay let's I.mean let's do that now to go onto the.next slide.I mean we've hearing from our regulation.spectrum colleagues about the kind of.legal framework the kind of aspects of.what they actually do in practice how.how the registration the application.works I mean this is just some of the.key judgments or not judgments the.eligibility criteria that we use to.evaluate local authorities performance.that I think are relevant here so and.I'll answer the question specifically in.the second is it I mean the fact is that.as inspectors we routinely look at.Children's plans and that's about making.sure that they comprehensively address.those needs experiences and that.includes permanence so the issue of.whether a placement is or isn't.permanent and these some of these.emergency placements have implications.for the work that after and the way we.use permanency in a different context.which is about children knowing where.they're going to be not to just today.tomorrow next week not even just next.month but next year the year after so.that's one thing.we also obviously looking at where the.children of appropriate carefully.assessed and supported contact with.family and friends so some of these.placements by their very nature in an.emergency are out at County we'll come.on to talk about one where you know the.the unregistered placement which is.absolute 400 miles three four hundred.miles different between the authority.and the placement education health.services clearly we look at that as well.but in looking at the impact of leaders.we particularly want to look at how well.informs senior leaders are how in touch.they are with the quality of those.allergies whether they have a clear line.of sight.and a good grip on what's happening at.the front line and you know did a to the.elected members of the chief executive.know that they're the highly vulnerable.child is placed in an unregistered.placement and we look at corporate.parenting so one of expression of which.is making sure that commissioned and.in-house services have sufficient.capacity to meet the needs of local.children it's not simple and.straightforward we know that no one.would pretend it is and trying to make.sure we have the you know the right.level of supply but if you ask you know.and the question you are asking is is.having a child in a non regiment.unregistered placement if you like a.dealbreaker.those kind of written Scott really will.itself a moment will it stop my service.no less than good I suppose as the.questions.ya know I think what we're more more of.issue with is how we got there in the.first place what was the decision.thinking decision making process what.the local authority is doing to make.sure the child is safe and that they.admitted the provider complying with the.legislative intent requirement and what.if any is the plan be the sole demeaning.problem you've got an emergency.placement.can't just leave it there it's that.broader context where it would have.could well bring a judgement down would.would be if this is serial activity and.there are large numbers of what we are.seeing is an authority that's.effectively known about the issue and.done nothing.to tackle it and or continues to expose.children to risk but even so this issue.will be seen in the broader context and.rings businesses of progress of children.and the impact of leaders so on its own.yeah okay thanks Nigel I'd like to bring.in a couple more points from Lynn a.local authority colleague so first of.all then then says that the people who.provide support to children are not.wanting to run always wanting to run.residential provision for children they.want to provide support for children and.families I mean I guess Kristin they.can't have it both ways either they.provide care that does require.registration and that's what they should.do or they should keep to the type of.support that is legitimately unregulated.that's right I mean unfortunately if.you've got you've got an agency for.example that's providing bespoke support.for a child either at home or in a.children's home or in a foster placement.that's obviously very different but if.they are providing complex packages of.care they are providing care yeah so.then they're stepping over the.boundaries so again our approach then is.our starting point is that if they're.providing good quality care and want to.provide good quality care there's no.reason they shouldn't register and we'll.proceed with that.assuming they meet the criteria Lynn's.Lynn's other question really is about.the difficulties where providers are not.always arranging placement changes for.children in a plans understanding and.caring way how does how do Ofsted.inspectors consider that as part of the.assessments of the quality of care that.providers are giving children well as.part of our inspections we do look at.transitions of children so that is part.of our inspection process.so if it's relation to children's homes.that would be part of the inspection.would be reported on yeah I know then.two ways I mean is the the way the.placement in the first.place placement into the whole.businesses as well as the exit kind of.area okay okay sure yeah okay so let's.go on just to it this is a brief kind of.case scenario so not a typical people.would be familiar this was I don't know.mr. Krishnan was twelve eighteen months.ago I was up north somewhere and and.came across just through I think it was.tracking or sampling he was a previous.inspection framework a young person.extremely vulnerable complex needs and.their behavior was challenging for.others ended up in and unregistered at.their children's home which actually had.started a registration process whether.it kind of accepted this placement in it.in an emergency and she was the only.child in placement and therefore.inevitably the high staffing ratios she.was at my house more settled and I mean.this was something who had had had a.very troubled veritable 18 months.admittedly she wasn't going to school.but you know and she was no longer going.missing with the kind of you know.frightening level of frequency and you.know so I picked up on this the.unregistered care home managers no one.who was understandably nervous when I.said I'd need to talk to regulatory.colleagues but you know actually in.Ofsted the left hand than the right hand.we worked pretty closely together so I.contacted Kristen and Mark and and what.I was keen to do obviously was to to.manage the situation in which the child.wasn't suddenly thrown back into a.series of crises and spiral and put more.at risk while at the same time making.sure that she was living appropriate.quality of care me but we actually have.a stance on this.well it's case by case basis basically.so certainly with this example we.actually chose to do a welfare visit.sometimes we might just write to the.provider and ask them to clarify what.care they're actually providing but in.this particular case we did do a welfare.visit and actually the provider was.providing some quite good quality care.and so we continue to monitor the.placement and actually we.did work with the provider to get that.registration through I think the memory.serves me right the child actually moved.on before registration was complete but.that's fine we still carry a little.registration so I think where we had if.we'd done a visit and had concerns about.the care that was being provided all the.state of the premises he would refer.that back through senior HMI to the.local authority to raise our concerns I.think the one caution I know when I that.I was very happy with the way that were.the one cautionary note is that.providers or the less scrupulous.provider will always a they're not going.to flag up problems to the placing.authority be they're going to report.that the young person is doing extremely.well but often in the context in which.there are no boundaries no challenge you.know and children who are vulnerable and.have got complexes who are no longer.required for instance to go to school.and who allowed to get a book out of.mid-afternoon and or and I can think of.an example of smoking cannabis from time.to time.probably arm going to kick off but that.doesn't mean that care is remotely.anywhere near where it shouldn't be.absolutely and we have done welfare.visits where we've had to raise some.quite serious concerns about whether the.accommodation or where the accommodation.is and the care that's been provided you.know we from staff that just haven't got.the ability to care for children and in.those cases we report back our concerns.to the local authority issue hundreds of.miles away now I think our systems now.in place those that are pretty good in.that we we liaise with the relevant.region so that be through John through.senior HMI but I think it may be more.complex for the local authority because.in order to exercise their duty and.responsibility is a good corporate.parent really even more so in the case.of someone who is extremely vulnerable.and being placed in an unregistered.placement it is difficult to have the.level of oversight and the safeguards.checks and balances when there and you.know a ten hour round trip.further away from mmm okay colleagues I.think we we've reached the point where.we can begin to draw the discussion to.the close what we're going to do is to.leave the webinar open to participants.for a few minutes in case you have any.further questions you'd like to put to.us and we will follow up today's webinar.with an email with some further.information and there will be a link to.a recording of the webinar if you want.to keep it for future reference.so finally thank you very much to.participants online and also to.colleagues in the room and just to.reiterate John Allen asked about the.availability of this slides will be.available the audio be available and.then the frequently asked questions will.be about yeah it does come with a caveat.though that this is all true at time of.going to press.in June 2019 misión to this in September.2021 you probably need to go back to and.you know if you like yeah you think.we'll have got to the point of changing.there by then that's incredibly.optimistic let's hope so all right thank.you good afternoon everyone thank you.thank you thank you.you.

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